I have been to Oahu a few times and would not hesitate to take water from there. If it has debris, jellyfish or other visable things I filter it through a coffee filter. Net pens are enclosed on the bottom and sides. What about boiling the NSW to kill off unwanted guests instead of chlorine? Just out of curiosity, are you keeping tropicals or cold-water species? Thanks for the update! Does it need to cycle if I am using sea water? Before introducing new fish to your tank, the water must be cycling for at least one month. If you have a deep sand bed with coral sand (or aragonite) your calcium will stay up and stabilized. The current treatment is chlorine, coffee filter and high quality activated carbon. For instance, many African cichlids prefer a higher pH. I dont think you will find good porous live rock in NJ. The average saltwater aquarium is trying to replicate the tropical conditions of water in places like the Caribbean. I also tend to agree with Paul that it might be more practical to start from scratch with new livestock when you get to Florida rather than try to ship animals from Hawaii. Im not sure about New Jersey, but here in Florida you cant take rocks from the ocean. Make sure the water you collect can settle for a few days. We also were only putting in local fish, crabs, shrimp, ect that we caught in same inlet, was fun and we learned as we went. you dont want to kill it and then you would have the waist of all the dead stuff. I switched to collecting water off the beach from Anna Marie Island. Ph 8.1 And I plan to dump 2 gallons and replace with 2 fresh gallons every so often. They are all fairly slow growing and not likely to take over your tank. I have noticed that a lot of people are saying it needs to be filtered or chlorinated before it is classed as being safe for fish. This typically involves filtering the water through a micron filter sock at the time of collection to eliminate as much debris and plankton as possible. Its the same as taking hard coral, which is also illegal. Please enlighten me. I wish I had the option of going natural, but Im a bit far removed from the ocean for that! The one thing I did read is that NSW does not have as good of buffering for Alk and Ph. Please be careful in taking any rocks from the sea though. [4] It contains a total of 45,000,000 litres (9,900,000 imp gal; 12,000,000 US gal) of water for more than 100,000 marine animals of over 800 species. Its also worth noting that 2 of my fish a Yellow Tang and a Fox Face love the seaweed which I bring in on small rocks it doesnt last for more than about 3 days before its all gone. Two of my fish a yellow tang and a fox face both love green food so when we collect the water we also take a bucket for small stones with seaweed on them they love it, it doesnt last for more than about three days before its all gone. I think your perspective will definitely be helpful for others considering going the NSW route, Nathan. The students were collecting water and critters for their aquarium projects. Sediment traps are containers that scientists place in the water to collect particles falling toward the sea floor. Put a few drops of almost any water from the ocean on a slide and look at it through a microscope and you will be amazed at what you see. In short Im a fan of natural sea water because of the cost and because I now feel that since they came from it, it has everything they need. is when I do too off should I still use freshwater, then use the nsw for water changes. what has surprised me is the amount of other living things that come in with the weed. Cheers, Dom. hey men iam from chennai located near to shore can i have your mail ID i have few doubts in storing the salt water, Ive been using NSW from http://www.SeaWaterDirect.com and use them for all my seawater needs and water changes. Submersible Incubation Device (SID) SID is a robotic mini-laboratory that automatically collects and processes seawater samples for researchers interested in studying biological activity in the deep ocean. Keeping corals, fish, and my whole tank thriving, and looking great for several years. That if he killed my fish by adding sea water I was going to make him catch me all new fish. Maybe not the corals that most keep in there systems but there is a lot there. Net pens can be in marine waters to farm species such as salmon and trout or freshwater to farm species such as tilapia and trout. Didnt filter the NSW. . Youll have to excuse the poor quality, as I only have the camera on my phone. I spent 4 hours yesterday reading about doing this and the few that do it with little to no filtering I think have it right. Taking rocks is probably illegal in NJ. This is a fantastic hobby and I love seeing new people try it out. One of the advantages of using natural sea water in your tank is that you will also be getting the microscopic life in the ocean back into your tank. Hey guys! That means an area with: Also, if you must collect close to shore, in addition to the points listed above, try to do so when the incoming tide carries in the cleanest possible water. Sea water. I am going to try this, this weekend. Many of the creatures here are on the endangered list or have been rescued, but one of the biggest highlights at this aquarium is the unique 360-degree underwater tunnel where you can soak . Seawater samples are collected from multiple depths spanning the depth range sampled by a corresponding plankton net haul (or depth range of interest). I have a boat and know some places not to far from shore 300 or so yards where the water is so clear I can see the bottom at 12+ feet. Anyway I emptied my tank immediately to give my first Sphex the entire 30 gal with red lights and filtration up the wazoo, under gravel, canister 3 times the capacity of the tank, hang on the back filtration and a uv sterilizer for Xmas. For the past month I have been using NSW for my water changes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caulerpa_lentillifera. Let me Know how you get on as I have been using NSW for about 3 months now. Like Paul I dont want to run a sterile system. Install an aquarium heater and heat the water to a temperature of 80F. Because of the tides its been late in the evening when I have been getting water pretty late at night so I have not really taken the time to look at the tank at night with a flashlight. All i have to do is a quick salinity check and water temp then rock and roll very easy. Aquarium salt is sodium chloride, which is also known as common, table, or rock salt. I have dove on the Red Sea and the bay of Aqaba and it truly is an amazing reef with a spectacular density of life. Good luck, This is a great thread and I have learned a lot. NSW is great stuff as long as you collect it in the ocean and not in some cesspool, river, estuary or the East River in Manhattan which is where my initial water came from. Wed love to see photos of the tank as it progresses if youre interested in sharing them. The gulf of mexico is full of corals. I did this all VERY quickly and caught them and brought them in clean water with 10 extra buckets to fill the tank. Were a month in using sea water, we just go collect it on the south shore of Maui just because its closest its between a harbor and a river mouth but both are a fair distance away and low tide or high tide never seems to makes a difference. You can also aim a flashlight at it to view for what looks like reflections from glass particles. I have a battery powered air bubbler you get from the fishing dept in walmart this will keep oxygenated and move water. The first photo is a daytime shot when the sunlight is shining through the glass into the tank. Once these containers are filled, lugging them to your vehicle (possibly after hoisting them off a boat) and then into your home can be a real chore. However one of the pieces has softened up quite a bit. Hawaii allows reef fish to be collected and fished for consumption and personal use, and many people spear fish on these reefs. Thinking I may be rushing things I let the tank settle down for a while and tried some pulsing xenia again but no so got another fish instead. Exactly. NSW has not only those chemicals but it also has vitamins, components of algae, dissolved meteorites, whatever is in the sulfur vents at the bottom of the sea, elements that the sun converts to other elements, wash water from Columbus underware and Amelia Earharts shoe. I used to be so paranoid about bugs and pollutants that I avoided it for the first 7 years into the hobby. I dont treat the water at all after bringing to temperature it goes straight in, no filtering no dark room no adding of anything yes I know Im taking a chance but wow the results are amazing. That will be good for biological filtration. Best of luck to you and your tank! This is a great lesson to all to go buy a battery powered bubbler. I will admit I am not ready to use it in my SPS Clam system yet only because I dont know about this buffering thing yet. I have seen calcium at 221 right outside the Miami River on low tide, and at 400 on high tide. I will keep everyone posted on how this goes. not sure what fish Ill get but they will be from the tidal rivers and that water will get up to 80 this summer. The prices that most of these outlets charge for sea water is really quite reasonable, especially when you take into account the price of a bag of sea salts and the time and energy required to mix up a barrel or even a bucket of saltwater. NO2- 0 ppm Ive stopped testing the water because the readings have always been exactly the same pH 8.2, Ammo, Nitrites, Nitrates and Phosphates all 0, Alk at 11dKh, calcium at 480. This tank is sort of for fun until I can get my dream tank which will be at least a 55g. Five-gallon buckets, heavy-duty plastic bins or trash cans, and similar watertight vessels are the usual tools of the trade for hobbyists who collect their own sea water. I recently set up a 135 gallon tank and used nothing but water I collected from the ocean. Theres no getting around the fact that collecting natural sea water involves some heavy lifting and logistical challengesespecially if youre collecting for a large aquarium. Alkalinity: NSW 139 PPM OSW 131 PPM The Deluxe G2 series from Red Sea is the second . I used dead rock and threw a dead clam and dead shrimp in there to cycle it. About two months ago I took the chance of using NSW and wow things have gone absolutely mad, the finger coral that I got some time back has now almost doubled in size so I tried some xenia again and thats loving it. I do live close to a water sourcebut its the Muddy Maumee. Not much good for a saltwater aficionado! I hope maybe I can shed a little further insight to this. I tried Tampa bay and the water looked dirty and the salinity was only 1.016. 40b with over 100 different zoas. However, it doesn't contain harmful chlorine or chloramine. This means warmer water temperatures and keeping animals that thrive in those types of conditions. Although I get my water from a fish hatchery at wrightsville Beach nc. Salinity was 1.025 at low tide and 1.026 at high tide. Yeah I know, Im nuts. I am thinking about using one of my 25 micron socks as the filter when I am pumping the NSW into the boat. I am not sure what the sand looks like in Malaysia but if it is powder fine, you cant use it. Get a dry synthetic saltwater mix. To collect greater quantities of unregulated species, a saltwater products license is required. I did this but Im thinking thats why its so cloudy. Never had one problem. Hi we have had a marine tank with NSW running for over a year, and we collect it from a harbour in the north east of Scotland. I have been thinking about collecting my be 50 Gals. Moved back. I have not done any tests to the water yet. Trying to add an image, but my comment wont even post. $3.99. About. Very interesting! Thanks Roy. Hoping to get touch with you soon. Im from Sri Lanka and Ive located a permanent spot for my water collection. Lol. If I lived in Fl near the sea or even here in New York near the sea, I would put a pipe into the water and continuously pump it into my tank. I wonder if I can convince my wife that moving to the Southeast would be worth it if only for the access to NSW. We also have corals and fish available for sale at AmazingAquarium.com that are tank raised and have been thriving in SeaWaterDirect. Is this necessary if I am doing a fish only tank and my set up has a small skimmer on it? I see where your coming from But if you are going to use sea water then speed is the essence. I know this isnt the politically correct answer but this is what I do with success. Our website SeaWaterDirect.com is now shipping Natural Sea Water (NSW) to your door to provide a hassle free safe healthy way to get live ocean water in your tank. I live in FL on the gulf side north of Tampa. Just be sure that any die-off that might occur on the rock happens before any fish or other animals are introduced to the system. Can I snag sea water from Florida and stock my aquarium when I move? Look for dolphins, sea birds and other marine life as our staff narrates the scenic ride to a shell island. wish I could use live rock and rotate it since I go every week, but technically its not allowed so I dont, of course. Just bought a used remora c skimmer. Some used a model called the basin, or "pool" aquarium, which often included a fountain, in greenhouses and winter gardens, placing its base in the ground, he adds. Never had a problem with the tank or the livestock. My tap water isnt chlorinated so I just pour water straight from tap! I have one Fox face, and Picasso Trigger along with yellow trigger. improvement with your corals. Hi Jeff and thank you for that amazing article. Ill keep you all posted and will check nitrite, ammonia, nitrate levels but I think this simple system is going to work just fine. After comparing the water parameters, I decided the water was too brackish and dirtyalthough my gorgonians seemed to like it. When we sterilize ourselves too much, or sterilize our diets too much we start getting weird diseases and syndromes that take years for doctors to figure out. I think as long as you collect water in the Gulf (not Tampa Bay) you should be ok. Spread all the cards out face down on a table. Hope this helps a little. I hope this has been of some help. So tides do affect the water chemistry quite a bit. Nature does a really great job at maintaining good seawater. What problems can/does this cause? We have heard all the warnings about using water this way but it honestly works for us! I go straight from the beach to my living room. On another point that a lot of people dont know. . So i would properly aclimate them to a specific gravity 1.026 over the period of a day or even 2, depending on what area of the Red Sea that they originate from. Keep us posted on the tanks progress. Sounds like you have a great collection process, keep it up. As I see it the water would be fresh and as a result cleaner. Finally any recs on sand? My freshwater fish are same. Thanks again Nigel. I just wade out from the beach, always on the incoming tide, and collect the water, then run it through a linen cloth to filter out any pests and sand. Ammonia <0.05 Hawaii is very picky about removing fish from their seas. Check the salinity of water from the Shark River. And feel that a sterile tank cant be as healthy as an NSW tank! Its been 2 years now and its worked out great, never had a problem with the water. NO3- 0 ppm, Obviously two months is too short a timeframe to reach any conclusions but so far, so good. You can mainly put : Rocks, pebbles and sand ; Branches or roots ; Even stumps. This is my first time dealing with a salt-water aquarium. I started my current tank with NSW from the Seaside Heights on the Jersey shore. Learn how to create a happy, healthy home for your pet. Ammonia: NSW <0.1 PPM OSW <0.1 PPM All; Auction; Buy it now; Best Match. I just started mine yesterday. Jeff and Chris I thank you for the advise of cleaning the water as I understand that its the norm to do so. Just another inducement to move to Florida as soon as were able. Proper water temperature for a reef aquarium should be around 76-78F. When arriving home with the recently collected sample in the jar, follow these steps: Let the sample settle to the bottom (two hours) After two hours, carefully drain the water above the settled diatoms Next, place the material into a test tube or in a measuring cylinder Allow the material to settle in the test tube (two hours) Just because we havent considered the benefits or dont know about them doesnt mean they arent there. I am only going to have local fish. Awesome input, Vanda! We have a fast growing group on Facebook Natural Seawater Users UK. I also never lift a bucket of water as I have plumbed in water lines that run from the storage area directly into the tanks (with the overflow for the excess water going directly into the sewer system). Just bought a 29g from a friend and am thinking of going as close to natural as possible. The waters of Jamaica are home to a completely different collection of fish and coral than New England. We go to great lengths trying to reproduce reef conditions to such a fine degree and using NSW as opposed to salt mixes I think will help accomplish this end game even better. I try to pick ones with no holes going into the rocks because of mantis shrimp and those damn swimming crabs. Love the Columbus and Earhart bit. I turned it on and the light flickered. It will change its chemical composition. Its also great that the whole family is involved. I do chlorinate because I am cautious about it the way I would be about accidentally introducing invasive species from water equipment I use in Maine and than again in Florida. hello guys Im from Philippines and i am using NSW for my NRT, im actually new to the hobby, ive been running my NRT for almost a month now, already added a fish into my tank and as far as i can see they are pretty happy, i think i mustve done it correctly, so what i did i actually followed the advice from this website but i actually stop using chlorine instead i just store it into a dark container for a week. (These Ohio winters are getting really tiresome!). The owner is a master marine biologist that loves marine animals, and the hobby. $59.99. Collecting Ocean Water for Your Aquarium Treating Ocean Water for Aquarium Method 1 - Filter and Store Without Light Method 2 - Using UV Sterilizers Measuring the Salinity of the Ocean Water Topping off your Aquarium Challenges of Using Ocean Water for Your Aquarium Finding Access to Clean Ocean Water Logistical Challenges 30 LIVE ASSORTED FRESHWATER FANCY GUPPY GUPPIES LIVEBEARERS AQUARIUM TANK FISH. What are the ramifications for cycling if I transfer the sand, live rock,etc. Closed Seasons: None. I am going to let it sit for about a week. They say about 20% of all tanks are not able to keep Xenia. It is better and certainly cheaper (except for that Ohio thing) The reason they are so picky is clear. But, as Paul B touched upon, I would be reticent about harvesting any livestock in either location without first checking with local regulatory agencies to determine whats legal and what isnt and to inquire about any necessary licensing. As the water is boiled, it kills off bacteria. A fee days later bight some clownfish and a goby sifter. I can tell that you took those rocks very close to shore where nutrient levels are much higher than if you took them from on a coral reef. I wade out knee deep and catch the water when its coming on shore but beyond checking for any turbidity I do absolutely nothing else special. Having trouble getting salt to dissolve in water before putting into tank though. By the way how do you add a pic? We currently lost power for three days and all my fishes were intact except for one blue damsel. of salt water and starting a small distillation operation just to get an idea of how much fresh water I can get out of 50 gals of salt water. Is there a site that is not outdated that I can post the pic? I live in the Maldives and Ive been collecting saltwater, fish, corals and inverts for about 2 years now and Ive had no problem, I just go to the beach at high tide to collect water and at low tide i go into the lagoon to catch my organisms. Ive been thinking about using NSW off the Savannah GA coastal area (not the most ideal I know) going to run with it after reading your comments. Note: The above text is excerpted from the Wikipedia article "Sea water", which has been released under the GNU Free Documentation License. Aquarium temperature is maintained through the use of an aquarium heater . Didnt strain at all, just dumped right in the tank. Im also looking at your page and this one I have to read as well: https://arcreef.com/live-rock/live-rock-guide/. I am surprised your fish have made it this long to be honest. She said as far as chemistry goes, ocean water is pretty much the same (or very close to it) all over the world. I hope this helps and I look forward to seeing it! So you know its calcium carbonate and contains no silica. or can i skip using the skimmer? I figure a smaller tank would be great to try this with. My tank is running for about a week now and everything looks good so far. Salinity in most major bodies of water can range from 1.024/32 PPT to 1.028/37.5 PPT, Alkalinity, PH, and other perimeters will differ but only slightly, and not enough to make a difference. Why not just use the life that natural. I throw it in the tank as is, 15-20 gallons of the stuff every 3-5 days and the fish keep chugging along and eating like pigs. Thanks, Paul! Went to the beach yesterday to scoop up some sand and water, and tossed in a few rocks. Plus I feel the NSW is a GOOD thing for my fish. Those tide pools are gold youll even get an eel & mini octo from time to time Too Cool! Date First Available : February 9, 2017. Bob Fenner WWM He said that NSW loses it ALK and PH faster so it should be changes more often. We also have a large tropical tank, an axolotl tank, shrimp tank and a breeding tank where we have successfully bred L059 ancistrus hoplygenys plecs. Here is a comparison of our last test dated April 4th. This type of salt does not contain trace minerals or elements. I just dumped it in and went from there. I actually collected my water for the initial set up a few days after Christmas and realized that its a lot warmer to just buy ASW. With proper care specimens can be kept and reused for future labs. It's not worth the risk let alone whether it's even legal. Purely anecdotally speaking, Ive found that Xenia tend to fare poorly in tanks that are really low in dissolved nutrients. My boat sucks up a lot of seawater and whatever is in it gets mutilated in the boats impellers. Please provide your contact details to discuss more on this hobby. To Paul Baldassano: Your comments were hilarious. but i always prefer to best use of nature source when i am back to country. For me, it is a matter of convenience and accessibility. I digress. You can skip this step by filtering the water through several layers of cheesecloth, but you'll lose some of the salt that way. I know collecting seawater in New York is legal and it probably is everywhere. But that was in the summer. Cheers and happy reefing everyone! The goby died in less than 24 hours so it was on deaths door when I got it. or has some kind of flow? This is my 265 gallon plywood tank which I built 3 and a half months ago to replace the smaller 180 gallon tank I set up over 2 years ago. A novice who lives in Coastal South Carolina, started out with a 45 gal system. I have had many fresh water tanks. Turn your reef aquarium dreams into a reality with the Red Sea Reefer Deluxe G2 series aquariums.
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